Edges of Converted Images are Warbled

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Dale Dreher
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Re: Edges of Converted Images are Warbled

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I really appreciat the lesson.  I will check those settings tonight when I Convert my next batch of pics and see how it goes.  Thank You!-Dale.dale@hazardtown.com On May 30, 2012, at 7:05 AM, Alfred J Treder wrote:   You DO want both dither and best interpolation, to correct aliasing. Dither is the term for rendering edges of features as NOT either/or for the choice of values for a pixel (at an edge), but somewhere in between the edge pixel value and the values of next-pixels away from the edge. It makes the edge pixels fade slightly into the background instead of their own little edges standing starkly against it. When you're short on pixels (and you ARE when you reduce resolution) you need every advantage to allow an analog (continuous) scene to look OK after digitizing it into discrete uniformly-sized pixels. You know, even with photographic film you are digitizing the continuous image from the lens into little silver grains in the emulsion, but they are usually so tiny you can't see them individually. Digital camera sensors have bigger grains (and are much more uniform) than photographic emulsion (with current technology). And then, to reduce the size of the digital file you are effectively making the grains much larger. You get some of the film effect of tiny grains next to larger grains by dithering and interpolating the uniform digital pixels. You would not want the dithering only if you have the edges in your image lined up with the edges of the pixels in your camera sensor, and want the sharpest possible presentation. Usually your image edges are a little off-angle relative to the rectangular arrangement of camera sensor pixels, and you will see a Moire pattern along those edges unless you soften the edges with dithering and interpolation. That's what you are calling wavy edges. Al“ When you come to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on.”-- Franklin D. Roosevelt  On May 29, 2012, at 11:25 PM, Dale Dreher wrote:   ok, I will start checking Dither from now on.  Care to tell me what the hell Dither means?  Lovingly, my friends, what does Dither mean?Is there a class I missed in college or in Photography 101, what is dither, for the rest of us?Thanks so much.I will check it, but can you teach a man to fish here?  Dither is: _______________________Thank you.  Please forgive my ignorance and I really do appreciate it. Dale DreherLocation Scout & Managerdale@hazardtown.comcell (310) 600-5020www.MaverickLocations.com On May 29, 2012, at 9:41 PM, Patrick Aquilla wrote:   oh and yes check Dither ... let me know how that works for youOn May 29, 2012, at 11:38 PM, Patrick Aquilla wrote:   I get the best convert results using Best Interpolation in Scale and using Progressive (instead of Baseline) as the Codec under the options ... those 2 changes should fix that as I recall running into this years backOn May 29, 2012, at 9:10 PM, Dale Dreher wrote:   When I shoot my location photos all day I come home with a bunch of pictures that are around 6-9mb each. These are too large and oversize that I end up Batch Converting them all at once using GC. I Resize to 768 Pixels High and then usually down to about 94% quality, which gives me a full set of now 500-750k or so pictures. The sizing is perfect but the quality is taking a hit. Particularly visible in the Straight White Lines in the photos as shown here: http://tinyurl.com/BAD-WHITE-EDGES There are my GC Batch Settings: http://tinyurl.com/GC-CONVERT-SETTINGS What am I doing wrong? I am using a $1000. Canon Camera but then in the Batch Convert process my pics are getting ruined. I have seem 60k pics that look better than my 750k converted pics. Any ideas on better GC settings for this? Thanks so much. Dale Dreher Los Angeles, CA dale@hazardtown.com
Dale Dreher
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Re: Edges of Converted Images are Warbled

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I don't know what that means, High Quality Interpolation.  I will look for it in Preferences, I guess, I and get back to you on how it works.I really thank you for trying to help.Peace. DALE DREHERLocation Manager & ScoutTeamsters Local 399, LMGA, DGA(310) 600-5020 celldale@hazardtown.comResume:      http://www.MaverickLocations.comIMDB:           http://www.imdb.me/DaleDreherFaceB:          http://www.facebook.com/DaleRDreher---- ... ---------- On May 29, 2012, at 11:24 PM, Thorsten Lemke wrote:   Hello,do you use the high quality interpolation?Thorsten On 30.05.2012, at 04:10, Dale Dreher wrote:   When I shoot my location photos all day I come home with a bunch of pictures that are around 6-9mb each. These are too large and oversize that I end up Batch Converting them all at once using GC. I Resize to 768 Pixels High and then usually down to about 94% quality, which gives me a full set of now 500-750k or so pictures. The sizing is perfect but the quality is taking a hit. Particularly visible in the Straight White Lines in the photos as shown here: http://tinyurl.com/BAD-WHITE-EDGES There are my GC Batch Settings: http://tinyurl.com/GC-CONVERT-SETTINGS What am I doing wrong? I am using a $1000. Canon Camera but then in the Batch Convert process my pics are getting ruined. I have seem 60k pics that look better than my 750k converted pics. Any ideas on better GC settings for this? Thanks so much. Dale Dreher Los Angeles, CA dale@hazardtown.com
Fred Lotte
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Re: Edges of Converted Images are Warbled

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Set your camera to a resolution closer to what you want for the finished product. Let the camera do the work of reducing the size. Look at scantips.com for info about resolution. A camera is just a fancy handheld scanner so most of what scantips has is applicable. "... scanning at the appropriate resolution for the job's purpose (instead of always using the maximum possible resolution) is the very best possible answer." On May 30,12, at 2:34, Dale Dreher wrote: > I don't know what that means, High Quality Interpolation. I will > look for it in Preferences, I guess, I and get back to you on how > it works. > > > I really thank you for trying to help. > > Peace. > > > DALE DREHER > Location Manager & Scout > Teamsters Local 399, LMGA, DGA > (310) 600-5020 cell > dale@hazardtown.com > > Resume: http://www.MaverickLocations.com > IMDB: http://www.imdb.me/DaleDreher > FaceB: http://www.facebook.com/DaleRDreher > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > On May 29, 2012, at 11:24 PM, Thorsten Lemke wrote: > >> >> Hello, >> >> >> do you use the high quality interpolation? >> >> Thorsten >> >> >> On 30.05.2012, at 04:10, Dale Dreher wrote: >> >>> >>> When I shoot my location photos all day I come home with a bunch >>> of pictures that are around 6-9mb each. These are too large and >>> oversize that I end up Batch Converting them all at once using >>> GC. I Resize to 768 Pixels High and then usually down to about >>> 94% quality, which gives me a full set of now 500-750k or so >>> pictures. The sizing is perfect but the quality is taking a hit. >>> >>> Particularly visible in the Straight White Lines in the photos as >>> shown here: http://tinyurl.com/BAD-WHITE-EDGES >>> >>> There are my GC Batch Settings: http://tinyurl.com/GC-CONVERT- >>> SETTINGS >>> >>> What am I doing wrong? I am using a $1000. Canon Camera but then >>> in the Batch Convert process my pics are getting ruined. I have >>> seem 60k pics that look better than my 750k converted pics. >>> >>> Any ideas on better GC settings for this? >>> >>> Thanks so much. >>> >>> Dale Dreher >>> Los Angeles, CA >>> dale@hazardtown.com >>> >>> >> >> > > >
Larry Knight
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"Count Color Pixels" Applescript usage?

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Could someone me with provide a very brief Applescript code snippet to show the proper usage of the "Count Color Pixels" Applescript dictionary element? I am trying to count the number of pixels in an image of a certain RBB color. Any working actual example would at least get me going. Thanks! Larry
Merlin
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Re: "Count Color Pixels" Applescript usage?

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property my_color : {65535, 65535, 65535} -- white set my_color to choose color default color my_color -- use the color picker tell application "GraphicConverter" tell window 1 count color pixels color my_color end tell end tell Operating on an image green.png of size 320 x 460 with pure green: tell application "AppleScript Editor" choose color default color {65535, 65535, 65535} --> {0, 65535, 0} end tell tell application "GraphicConverter" count color pixels window 1 color {0, 65535, 0} --> 147200 end tell Result: 147200 --- In gcmac@yahoogroups.com, Larry Knight <larryknight71@...> wrote: > > Could someone me with provide a very brief Applescript code snippet to show the proper usage of the "Count Color Pixels" Applescript dictionary element? > > I am trying to count the number of pixels in an image of a certain RBB color. Any working actual example would at least get me going. > > Thanks! > > Larry >
Larry Knight
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Re: "Count Color Pixels" Applescript usage?

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Thank you, Merlin, that got me going! I appreciate it.Larry On Jun 7, 2012, at 7:02 AM, Merlin wrote:   property my_color : {65535, 65535, 65535} -- white set my_color to choose color default color my_color -- use the color picker tell application "GraphicConverter" tell window 1 count color pixels color my_color end tell end tell Operating on an image green.png of size 320 x 460 with pure green: tell application "AppleScript Editor" choose color default color {65535, 65535, 65535} --> {0, 65535, 0} end tell tell application "GraphicConverter" count color pixels window 1 color {0, 65535, 0} --> 147200 end tell Result: 147200 --- In gcmac@yahoogroups.com, Larry Knight <larryknight71@...> wrote: > > Could someone me with provide a very brief Applescript code snippet to show the proper usage of the "Count Color Pixels" Applescript dictionary element? > > I am trying to count the number of pixels in an image of a certain RBB color. Any working actual example would at least get me going. > > Thanks! > > Larry > TODAY(Beta) • Powered by Yahoo!How wealthy is the British royal family?Get Yahoo Search App! • Privacy Policy
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