[Solved] File Format: JPEG (quality about XX %) -- Encoding quality in brackets not shown for all JPEGs

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[Solved] File Format: JPEG (quality about XX %) -- Encoding quality in brackets not shown for all JPEGs

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In GraphicConverter some JPEGs show this quality encoding estimation in brackets and some not.
1) Why do some JPEGs not show that info?
2) What determination method does GraphicConverter you use?

As posted here
a) some encoders preserve their used quality setting in a comment
b) whereas ImageMagick's identify -format '%Q' file.jpg command makes an heuristic estimation.

identify gives me q quality for JPEGs where GraphicConverter gives me no quality.
So I assume you do not use identify but another method.
Could you maybe consider to use ImageMagick identify as a fallback method for those JPEGs where your current determination methods delivers no value?
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Re: File Format: JPEG (quality about XX %) -- Encoding quality in brackets not shown for all JPEGs

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Can I please get a JPEG zipped which does not display the quality?
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Re: File Format: JPEG (quality about XX %) -- Encoding quality in brackets not shown for all JPEGs

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Sent you different samples zipped via email, whose "File Format" attribute shows as:
- JPEG -- No extra info in brackets
- JPEG (progressive)
- JPEG (quality about 82%)
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Re: File Format: JPEG (quality about XX %) -- Encoding quality in brackets not shown for all JPEGs

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@forum_adm replied to me in an email.

The fix is:
- Preferences > Open > Image Formats > JPEG > Open with this decoder: JPEG 6c
- I had it set it to "TurboJPEG" which does not provide the quality estimation information.
- Hence only CMYK JPEGs showed a quality info, because TurboJPEG cannot decode them, and falls back to JPEG 6c.

Proposed UX improvement: Use the available space in that dialog for a hint that informs the user about the Pros & Cons of each decoder, so that users can make an informed decision when thinking about changing the decoder.

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And most important: TurboJPEG works only on Intel Macs.
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Good info, for Apple Silicon users who might read this when troubleshooting!
Can you please add all those pros/cons/limitations infos you are aware of into that preference section?
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Yes, and I will remove the library selection for Apple Silicon Macs.
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Ideally leave the choice there, but on Apple Silicon Macs grey it out.

And in the hint add an explanation Currently not supported on Apple Silicon Macs which is a link to the project website, where one can then look up how far they are with Apple Silicon development, and then one day nag you as GraphicConverter's developer that support is now there, please integrate it to GC. 😉
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The latest BETA supports now TurboJPEG onto the Apple Silicon.
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